MHD Lawyer, Tom Schornhorst, on our “very interesting day” in Jones County Court

{ Posted on Sep 14 2009 by Jason Talley }
Categories : In Review, Supporters, The Crew

NMissCommentor.com posted a comment by Tom Schornhorst, one of our three lawyers, about his experience representing us in Jones County Justice Court. Tom is the Emeritus Professor of Law Indiana University School of Law and a nationally recognized expert on search and seizure laws. He volunteered his time to represent us after reading about our illegal and immoral arrest in Jones County Mississippi by an out of control Sheriff’s Department. Professor Schornhorst first heard about us on Radley Balko’s site, the Agitator, and has generously donated his time to defend us. He writes:

I was in the Jones County Justice Court for the trial — in fact I was admitted pro hac vice as one of the defense attorneys. Dale Danks and Michael Cory, Jr. of Jackson appeared as well. We were all volunteer counsel.

One of the reasons the judge took the matter under advisement is that we raised and argued a motion to suppress evidence on the theory that the stop was illegal and the subsequent arrests were the product of that 4th Amemdment violation. [I can hear the incredulous lawyers out there already: "A motion to suppress in Justice Court???" -- echoing Harvey in Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid: "Rules"? Rules in a knife fight?"] We were also challenging the application of the disorderly conduct/resisting arrest statute as well as the law proscribing the possession of beer in a dry county.

The deputy who initiated the stop said he could not read a temporary out of state license tag from his position athwart I-59 in an emergency turn area. He followed but did not chose to run the plate via his dispatcher because he could not read it clearly. After he stopped the MH he was able to read the handwritten New Hampshire tag and nothing on the face of it seemed to be amiss. He ordered the driver out of the car before checking the validity of the tag via radio or computer — and from the safety of his patrol SUV. At this point the investigation “diverged” with questions about drugs, etc. [These of course being a prelude to a request for a consensual search. But no consent was forthcoming] The driver told the deputy that he had two handguns inside, but both were disassembled and in locked containers with ammunition stored in a separate locked container. In MS it is not against the law to carry such weapons in a motor vehicle. The deputy said he noticed movement inside the MH and asked the driver about other occupants. He said there were two and the deputy ordered them out and directed them to stand in designated areas separated from one another. One of the guys was recording the incident with a digital video camera and the first deputy did not tell him to stop but said he warned him not to move closer than the rear end of the patrol SUV. He also said with a straight face that he was aware of guns being disguised as video cameras and that made him uneasy — but not enough to demand that the guy show him the camera or hand it over for inspection or to turn away while he continued to question the driver. When a second deputy arrived the camera guy was arrested for [they say] refusing to obey the police order to stay in one place. By this time a third deputy had arrived and after the camera guy was cuffed and put in a police car, the first deputy (about 6 ft. 230 lbs) and the second deputy (over six feet and weighing in at about 260 lbs)both fully armed approached the second passenger and asked for his ID. It was claimed that as he was being approached by these two intimidating figures he took an “aggressive stance” (hands at side with clenched firsts and one foot behind the other; another way to look at this would be a “defensive” position) He declined to produce his ID because he could not see how he had done anything wrong. {And according to the U.S. Supreme Court a person cannot be made to produce ID without reasonable grounds to suspect he is or was engaged in criminal activity.) When he also refused to turn and put his hands on the MH (as in “assuming the position” for a frisk) he was pepper sprayed, put in a choke hold (by the 260 pounder) and thrown to the ground and handcuffed. He too was charged with DOC.

Sometime later a state police K-9 officer just happened to be driving by and stopped at the scene. He was asked by the deputies (and by this time a supervising Captain had arrived) to lead his drug sniffing dog around the exterior of the MH. He claimed the dog “alerted” near the rear of the MH and this led to the search of the interior of the MH. Absolutely no trace of any kind of illegal drug was found, but there was that other dangerous substance A SINGLE BOTTLE OF [ALLEGED] BEER in the fridge. The driver was then arrested and charged with possession of beer in a dry county. The deputy did not “tag and bag” the beer, could not remember the brand, or whether it was even alcoholic or non-alcohol beer. [By the way, we had subpoenaed any video tape made by the police from their cars, any recordings of radio traffic concerning the incident, and photos, etc. Also made a motion to preserve this stuff. It was not produced and that led to a question whether the police tape contained exculpatory material. The prosecutor said it didn’t but of course he hadn’t looked at it or even known there were such items at the time of the trial. This was another reason the judge took the matter under advisement. He said he would look at the police video to see if it had relevant information.

The guys were taken to jail and the MH towed to another location where (with no warrant or regard for inventory procedures) it was totally ransacked and damaged in another fruitless search for drugs. It was later taken to a non-secure impound lot and the video camera and the guns were left in plain view on a seat in the MH. Oh, and incidentally, the video footage taken by the passenger had been deleted — but of course the deputy had no knowledge of that even though he was the person in charge of the evidence.

Our purpose was to get the police committed to their stories and we fully expect to proceed to a trial de novo preceded by evidentiary hearings on motions to suppress, spoliation of evidence, possible Brady issues (I’m guessing that the video taken from the police car may come up missing or erased or accidentally destroyed. In any event, I am not even sure whether it would show much of the action based on where the patrol SUV was positioned at the back of the MH.

All in all, it was a very interesting day in Jones County.


15 Responses to “MHD Lawyer, Tom Schornhorst, on our “very interesting day” in Jones County Court”

  1. You should point out in Mississippi Justice Court Judges are not lawyers and only have to have a high school diploma.

  2. I’m unclear of the rules of criminal procedure in MS. Was that the full trial last week, or will that come later?

  3. There are some good procedures to follow that will still maintain your rights and not get too roughed up. They will search if they want – trying to stop them just invites them to get physical – most of them have exceptionally low IQ’s and love to express their braun since they lack a brain. Take care and look forward to your visit in Kansas City.

  4. It’s good to see that so many of those kids who roughed up the geeks and stole their money in grade school have found jobs that are fitted to their personalities and are personally rewarding.

  5. You say that as if it is a bad thing. If the law cannot be applied by a high school grad, then the law needs to be repealed. If anything lawyers should be prohibited from being judges.

  6. I live in Jones County where this incident happened. If what they motor home trio says is true, then it is totally surprising. I find it hard to believe that it happened this way. There is a big problem here with drug shipments coming through on Interstate 59. I don’t blame the Sheriff’s department!

  7. Sounds like those cops and the stupid prosecutor (‘Cop cars can haz video recordarrrs?’) should be fired immediately.

    They all sound like they are compensating for having very, very, very small private parts.

  8. So… when are the charges under 18 USC 241 and 242 going to be forthcoming?

  9. > Oh, and incidentally, the video footage taken by the passenger had
    > been deleted — but of course the deputy had no knowledge of that
    > even though he was the person in charge of the evidence.

    Evidence tampering, huh? Aren’t there stiff penalties for that? (I mean, if cops and DAs were *actually held to the same standards as the rest of us*.)

    Next time, set it up to stream to some online data store using an iphone, googlephone, or whatever. I believe this is what Sam Dodson did (http://carlosmiller.com/2009/04/30/new-hampshire-man-remains-in-jail-after-filming-inside-courthouse/).

  10. Carolyn of Jones County:

    The summary posted IS state’s version of the evidence. The defendants’ version of the event was not presented and will await a trial de novo in the event the judge finds one or more of them guilty of the charge(s).

  11. Carolyn from Jones County:

    The fact that you find it all “hard to believe” is an argument from incredulity, in other words a logical fallacy. A person who submits that kind of argument is likely suffering from stockholm syndrome.

    Since you probably don’t understand half the words I just typed, let me put it in layman’s terms: You, like your Jones County Keystone Kops, are absolute fucking retards. Now go submit yourself for processing like a good little prole.

  12. C i R:

    You are right about Carolyns arguing from incredulity, but your argument, based on ad hominem name-calling, is no better.

    You are on the correct side of the underlying isue (the Jones County deputies clearly violated the MHD3’s consitiutional rights and should be punished), but your vituperation undermines and devalues your advocacy.

  13. You were traveling through one of the Drug hot spots in Jones County when you were stopped. It is apperant from your web site that you three are on a quest to confront officers and stage issues that will get money donated to your joy ride around the US.

    We support our SO in Jones County and we do not want trouble makers in our area.

    PLEASE, PLEASE take another route when traveling south and stay out of Jones County.

    Your group gives dedicated 912′ers and supporters of the Constitution a black eye with your money making tricks. Get a Job and grow up

  14. well the police in ms have the look of a genetic cloning project 6ft 250- 300lb and it is about the same with the video from patrol car there always lost or the video equip was old and just not working at the time in ? and i live in columbus ms but i was traveling back and forth to the coast for @ 4 years and the suv you are talking about spent most of the time that i have seen parked under a bridge with bright spot lights on that would blind you and when you would bobble from being blinded he would stop you and go into the famous how much have you had to drink and can i search your car and the judge is trying to figure a way to find you not guilty without opening the door for a law suit good luck and welcome to mississippi the hostility state just thank god they dident do a cavity check

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